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P1000 Jackal's P1000-5

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Got a UPS notice my Strong Made front bumper is arriving tomorrow for the P1K5D. About 2 weeks sooner than promised. Will post pictures of installation and thoughts on winch high on bumper or low in OEM location for use.
 
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That is a thing of beauty! You've pretty much nailed everything so far. I absolutely love the ground clearance with that setup.

Here is a request: Can you please post some good video of you rock crawling or climbing some technical stuff (to show off your tires and ground clearance). I have not seen any good videos of the P1000 out yet (that aren't go pro) where it shows the unit going over some technical stuff.
 
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OK had a big ole box sitting against the door happened to be the Strong Made BG-55W Winch Series front bumper. First thing I noticed was how heavy the main center piece was, no winch will tweak it will easily shear the bolts off first either going into the winch or the OEM bumper mount location where the four long 8mm bolts mount the top of the front bumper.

Quickly realized keeping my winch low on the KFI mount in the OEM position like I intended was a no go as the Strong Made main bracket bolt into the holes where the fairlead was and covered up 75% of the hole. So had to take that apart first. and put it back to stock before mounting anything.

So here we go all you need to mount the bumper is a 1/2" wrench and socket, that's it. Only takes 20 minutes not including adding a winch.

First put the main bracket in place slip the 2 U bolts around the OEM bumper tube and up through the main bracket, then use the 2 stainless 5/16' bolts going into the lower bracket holes through the OEM fairlead holes.

Hardware included:
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OEM clean start /
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Attaching main bracket loose / All tightened up
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Bumper on without winch
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Winch mounted, uh oh its snowing gotta play :p
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Back in the shed for now...

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Overall I like the bumper and how it looks, it does mount right over the top of the OEM bumper, and is quick to install.

PROS:
Allows you to mount the winch up high in an easy to reach location, out of most mud hole situations much better than OEM.
Provides additional protection of the radiator and front headlight / plastic if bush whacking sapling is your thing this can be used to trail blaze.
Easy Install
Heavy Duty

CONS:
Eliminates the ability to use OEM winch location
Bolts over the OEM bumper instead of to the frame direct - for a bumper that can hold a 5K winch I expect that.
Heavy - 50-52 pounds
Adds 4" to the overall length if you are counting inches in a toy hauler or trailer.

Final Thoughts
I bought it because of how impressed I was with the bumper they made for the P500, it will certainly be able to take a beating but would have preferred its own main section mounted to the frame top and bottom without relying on the strength of OEM bumper to hold the winch pulling from above the top mounting holes by 6". I do like the style, it matches the lines of the front end nicely and am not disappointed in it for looks or strength. Its a keeper and will stay unless I rip my OEM bumper off using the winch from the top location. Time will tell :cool: 20160119 194943 20160119 195135 20160119 195235
 
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I like how yours looks better than my emp on my 700. Yours is more burly. But the emp replaces all the OEM mounts. May be stronger time will tell but I love what you've done with the 1000 looks perfect
 
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OK had a big ole box sitting against the door happened to be the Strong Made BG-55W Winch Series front bumper. First thing I notices was how heavy the main center piece was, no winch will tweak it will easily shear the bolts off first either going into the winch or the OEM bumper mount location where the four long 8mm bolts mount the top of the front bumper.

Quickly realized keeping my winch low on the KFI mount in the OEM position like I intended was a no go as the strong made main bracket bolt into the holes where the fairlead was and covered up 75% of the hole. So had to take that apart first. and put it back to stock before mounting anything.

So here we go all you need to mount the bumper is a 1/2" wrench and socket, that's it. Only takes 20 minutes not including adding a winch.

First put the main bracket in place slip the 2 U bolts around the OEM bumper tube and up through the main bracket, then use the 2 stainless 5/15 bolts going into the lower bracket holes through the OEM fairlead holes.

Hardware included:
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OEM clean start /
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Attaching main bracket loose / All tightened up
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Bumper on without winch
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Winch mounted, uh oh its snowing gotta play :p
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Back in the shed for now...

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Overall I like the bumper and how it looks, it does mount right over the top of the OEM bumper, and is quick to install.

PROS:
Allows you to mount the winch up high in an easy to reach location, out of most mud hole situations much better than OEM.
Provides additional protection of the radiator and front headlight / plastic if bush whacking sapling is your thing this can be used to trail blaze.
Easy Install
Heavy Duty

CONS:
Eliminates the ability to use OEM winch location
Bolts over the OEM bumper instead of to the frame direct - for a bumper that can hold a 5K winch I expect that.
Heavy - 50-52 pounds
Adds 4" to the overall length if you are counting inches in a toy hauler or trailer.

Final Thoughts
I bought it because of how impressed I was with the bumper they made for the P500, it will certainly be able to take a beating but would have preferred its own main section mounted to the frame top and bottom without relying on the strength of OEM bumper to hold the winch pulling from above the top mounting holes by 6". I do like the style, it matches the lines of the front end nicely and am not disappointed in it for looks or strength. Its a keeper and will stay unless I rip my OEM bumper off using the winch from the top location. Time will tell :cool: View attachment 9353 View attachment 9354 View attachment 9356
Looks good! I also wondered about the strength given the attachment to the stock bumper, but you couldn't ask for a quicker/easier install!
 
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Looks great @JACKAL. I'm thinking it's fine for winching. Maybe it could be tweaked if the winch is doubled and you just about stall out the winch, but that's 9000lb pull so it probably won't ever be needed. I think they've done their homework and know it will take the abuse.

I've got a spare OEM bumper if you ever damage that one anyway.
 
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I am new to the forum as a member but not to Honda. This is my first post. I have followed this build from day one and have a long list of items on my "I'm going to do list" thanks to this build. All I can say is thanks to everyone that is sharing the journey of the new 1000!!! I purchase a red deluxe edition a month ago after selling my 2013 "big red" and absolutely love my purchase. Thanks again guys for sharing all of this valuable information. :)
 
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I am new to the forum as a member but not to Honda. This is my first post. I have followed this build from day one and have a long list of items on my "I'm going to do list" thanks to this build. All I can say is thanks to everyone that is sharing the journey of the new 1000!!! I purchase a red deluxe edition a month ago after selling my 2013 "big red" and absolutely love my purchase. Thanks again guys for sharing all of this valuable information. :)

@Joshmo1017 Welcome to the club, glad you enjoyed my build. Feel free to share some photos with us of your ride and adventures out on the trails.
 
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Just went through all 9 pages of your build and think it is totally awesome!! Very clean install on everything. Kudos man
 
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Just went through all 9 pages of your build and think it is totally awesome!! Very clean install on everything. Kudos man
Thanks bud.
 
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Awesome!
Snow pictures seem to bring out the beauty in these machines.
 
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Was getting a bit wild in my P1K and am getting more rubbing than anticipated when hitting larger rocks etc. so I am going to end up with 28"x10x14 Roctanes. So for now going back to OEM tires and wheels until I can get the A-arms installed. I think 28" tires with the lift alone will be fine as it rubbing isn't terrible just more than I like on a hard hit 1/2" would make all the difference in the world, but these tires are 30.4" where most run on the smaller side of stated diameters.
 
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Was getting a bit wild in my P1K and am getting more rubbing than anticipated when hitting larger rocks etc. so I am going to end up with 28" Roctanes to get the proper clearance I need. So for now going back to OEM tires and wheels until I can get the A-arms installed. I think 28" tires with the lift alone will be fine as it rubbing isn't terrible just more than I like on a hard hit 1/2" would make all the difference in the world, but these tires are 30.4" where most run on the smaller side of stated diameters.
Man, sorry to hear that. Oh well, charting new territory always requires some trial and error. Will you go for the CATVOS now or wait and see what the others put out?
 
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Man, sorry to hear that. Oh well, charting new territory always requires some trial and error. Will you go for the CATVOS now or wait and see what the others put out?

Probably CATVOS or ORB 2" forward A arms. Another anomaly I ran into today was surging at 51 mph jast around 5000 rpm. Went back to OEM tires and wheels dissapeared and right back to redline and 66 mph smooth as butter. Not sure what specifically caused the surging but it has me scratching my head.
 
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Probably CATVOS or ORB 2" forward A arms. Another anomaly I ran into today was surging at 51 mph jast around 5000 rpm. Went back to OEM tires and wheels dissapeared and right back to redline and 66 mph smooth as butter. Not sure what specifically caused the surging but it has me scratching my head.
Was it trying to limit out there at 5000 or was it like the smart shift sensors weren't sure what to do with that particular accelerator/speed pairing so it was just hanging around there?
 
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