P500 New 500 Engine Stalling and Transmission Locking

[Deacon]

I have a brand new 2022 500 and the first two trips in the field the transmission locks in 1st gear and will not shift out. When I first start the engine and take off the engine stall’s several times and the transmission locks. The indicator flashes 1. I can turn the engine off and immediately restart it and everything works fine then I take off again and the same thing happens. If I take off real slow it doesn’t seem to have a problem. The transmission has shifted hard since I bought it but I’ve read that it will get better with use.

 

[Remington]

Check all your grounds and make sure there clean on the cable and surface and secure. Brand new or not, have seen them loose. Very important in these machines.
also make sure your battery is fully charged. When that check list is done, try it again then report back.

You still need to provide pics of your machine! And now of your indicator, your lagging behind. Youll get more help when you do! Its Rule #4
Pics Or It Didnt Happen!

 

[Deacon]

Check all your grounds and make sure there clean on the cable and surface and secure. Brand new or not, have seen them loose. Very important in these machines.
also make sure your battery is fully charged. When that check list is done, try it again then report back.

You still need to provide pics of your machine! And now of your indicator, your lagging behind. Youll get more help when you do! Its Rule #4
Pics Or It Didnt Happen!

Will do. Thanks for the info.

 

[futzin]

Transmission not wanting to shift on new machines has been reported. Happened to me. Typically though the dash will show a dash - for the gear indicator. Usually this issue fades away.

Engine stalling (dying?) doesn't sound right though.

Good general advice is don't baby it.

 

[KYhillbilly]

How cold is it? i have had troubles trying to rush it before it warms up a little.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

Curious if it is happening in Auto mode or Manual mode or maybe both?

 

[Red500]

1. Are you waiting for the fuel pump to stop running and the display to say hello before starting it.
2. They don't like to shift when the transmission is cold.

 

[Deacon]

Transmission not wanting to shift on new machines has been reported. Happened to me. Typically though the dash will show a dash - for the gear indicator. Usually this issue fades away.

Engine stalling (dying?) doesn't sound right though.

Good general advice is don't baby it.

The engine doesn’t die, it just bogs down repeatedly and the transmission is trying to shift through all that until it locks up.

 

[Deacon]

Curious if it is happening in Auto mode or Manual mode or maybe both?

It is in auto mode when it happens.

 

[Deacon]

How cold is it? i have had troubles trying to rush it before it warms up a little.

The temps have been in the 50’s both days it has happened. Once it happened after I had been driving about 15 minutes.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

It is in auto mode when it happens.

Have you used the manual mode at all? Any issues with the shifts while in manual?

I think there is a thread (lol, probably several) on here about adjusting the shifting. The P5’s definitely clunk through the gears until that first break in oil change is done. And they do improve (or you just get used to it and it’s really a placebo effect). But I didn’t experience anything close to what you’re describing with it bogging the motor and essentially going into limp mode until you cycle the ignition/power/key.

 

[MKelly Dixon]

Just curious. Could it have anything to do with the seatbelt safety? If the driver’s seat seatbelt isn’t connected mine acts crazy like it’s running out of gas or gonna quit on me when I get to 11 or 12 mph. I know it’s a governor control but 🤷‍♂️.

 

[NTCPrezJB]

Just curious. Could it have anything to do with the seatbelt safety? If the driver’s seat seatbelt isn’t connected mine acts crazy like it’s running out of gas or gonna quit on me when I get to 11 or 12 mph. I know it’s a governor control but 🤷‍♂️.

I don’t think the display flashes at you when the seatbelt governor kicks in on you. But it’s never a bad idea to check an easy item off the potential issue list.

 

[Deacon]

Just curious. Could it have anything to do with the seatbelt safety? If the driver’s seat seatbelt isn’t connected mine acts crazy like it’s running out of gas or gonna quit on me when I get to 11 or 12 mph. I know it’s a governor control but 🤷‍♂️.

That is a good question. The problem did not happen until after I buckled the seat belt behind me and left it buckled. I only drive on relatively flat farmland checking cattle so I feel comfortable without the belt. I’ll try unbuckling it and see if that fixes it. The dealer has asked me to bring it back to them so they can run a diagnostic on it.

 

[Mudder]

First time I adjusted my clutch, went too far on turns. It would stall out on shift. Thinking it had to do with the engine retard feature during shifts. Found the sweet spot and all ok. Maybe try a clutch adjustment?

PS. Are you familiar with the emergency shift tool?

P500 - Pioneer 500 Clutch Adjustment (Video)

I made a short video of the Pioneer 500 clutch adjustment.

hondasxs.com

 

[Mudder]

Here is the old thread @Deacon where I had the stall issue and lock in 1st. @HondaTech clarified the clutch adjustment and shift retard stall on page 2 post #24. Best of luck hoping your problem is this simple and not something worst.

P500 - 1st Clutch Adjustment

was simple and easy. For most of its life, when cold, the first couple of shifts 2nd to 3rd, would stay in 2nd. On Sunday, it was stuck in forth, even though we had traveled a couple of miles. Had to double hit the paddle to go to 5th. Manual says to: - Loosen lock nut - One turn clockwise...

hondasxs.com

 

[Jerryg]

Did you check the belt, I have been told that they can be troublesome........

 

[JayPo]

Ensure the muffler is not crooked, that is a known issue with these Hondas

 

[Jerryg]

Is the frame rusted out yet?

 

[Deacon]

First time I adjusted my clutch, went too far on turns. It would stall out on shift. Thinking it had to do with the engine retard feature during shifts. Found the sweet spot and all ok. Maybe try a clutch adjustment?

PS. Are you familiar with the emergency shift tool?

P500 - Pioneer 500 Clutch Adjustment (Video)

I made a short video of the Pioneer 500 clutch adjustment.

hondasxs.com

I am familiar with the tool but have never had to use it. Thanks for the video.

Is the frame rusted out yet?

I hope not, it is only 3 months old and has less than 12 miles on it.