Political Rant thread

[JTW]

If this thread gets locked, I'll start another and ask you not to participate if you don't understand civility.

Typical liberal response.. I don't like what you have to say so I'm going to pout and not invite you to play! Here you are touting what a champion of freedom your guy is... But what do ya know first sign of opposition and here comes the hypocracy!

 

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[JTW]

I already told yall.
Post like these get ugly and I'm not wasting my $10 fire extinguisher in here. I need it for my buddies Polaris.

I haven't even kept up with what yall are b****ing about.
Haha.

Good luck.



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It's actually been quite civil... Monte just doesn't like to hear that he's wrong.

 

[JACKAL]

Seriously bro, I appreciate your opinion. Keep it civilized. Don't make a mod come in here and lock it up.

Nah we won't lock it. Just go all Hollywood and have a third"Now you see me, Now you don't" sequel. Party on Wayne!

 

[moparornocar]

I am thoroughly enjoying the dialogue here. A little bit of combat is good for the soul. I like and respect each one of you for your individuality and opinions. While I don't necessarily agree with all of them, I don't need to. That's what this great country is all about, our own individual freedom to be assholes or complacent and let others run our lives. @Montecresto I can definitely see some of the points you made and don't disagree with some of them, even though I'm not a Johnson fan, I can appreciate that you are. @JTW I can tell your thoughts are more in line with mine, but your kind of a D about it. That's why people don't like folks like us a lot of times. There, I've said my piece. I feel better

 

[JTW]

I am thoroughly enjoying the dialogue here. A little bit of combat is good for the soul. I like and respect each one of you for your individuality and opinions. While I don't necessarily agree with all of them, I don't need to. That's what this great country is all about, our own individual freedom to be assholes or complacent and let others run our lives. @Montecresto I can definitely see some of the points you made and don't disagree with some of them, even though I'm not a Johnson fan, I can appreciate that you are. @JTW I can tell your thoughts are more in line with mine, but your kind of a D about it. That's why people don't like folks like us a lot of times. There, I've said my piece. I feel better

Bhahahaha!! I know, considering it's monte I've felt the need to up it a bit! Lol.. He's smarter than to play into all that dumb s***! I can't count how many of these debate/arguments I've been in. I can tolerate the Johnson support.. Hell, sometimes my Johnson needs extra support too! But when you bring that crazy ass socialist into a debate... You lose all logic and credibility in you argument!

 

[moparornocar]

Bhahahaha!! I know, considering it's monte I've felt the need to up it a bit! Lol.. He's smarter than to play into all that dumb s***! I can't count how many of these debate/arguments I've been in. I can tolerate the Johnson support.. Hell, sometimes my Johnson needs extra support too! But when you bring that crazy ass socialist into a debate... You lose all logic and credibility in you argument!

I can't even.....

 

[CumminsPusher]

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[Montecresto]

I already told yall.
Post like these get ugly and I'm not wasting my $10 fire extinguisher in here. I need it for my buddies Polaris.

I haven't even kept up with what yall are b****ing about.
Haha.

Good luck.



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Lol, thanks Honda, we need it!

 

[Montecresto]

Typical liberal response.. I don't like what you have to say so I'm going to pout and not invite you to play! Here you are touting what a champion of freedom your guy is... But what do ya know first sign of opposition and here comes the hypocracy!

Not true dude. Just articulate your opinion without the lack of civility. Several members have complained and one moderator threatened to lock the thread if it doesn't stop. Btw, the point to starting another thread and asking you not to participate if you're not going to be civil is to prevent a lock down, not because I'm pouting. Oh, and "liberal" I supported Ron and Rand Paul and Johnson, no liberals. Can I say one more time that foreign policy is what's of paramount importance to me?

 

[Montecresto]

It's actually been quite civil... Monte just doesn't like to hear that he's wrong.

No, what I don't like is for folks that can't make their point without getting ugly to cause a thread to be shut down. I really don't care if you call me a dumb ass, but apparently some other posters and at least one moderator does.

 

[JTW]

No, what I don't like is for folks that can't make their point without getting ugly to cause a thread to be shut down. I really don't care if you call me a dumb ass, but apparently some other posters and at least one moderator does.

I wasn't being ugly.. Just direct and to the point. It amazes me how sinsitive our society has become.

 

[JTW]

Not true dude. Just articulate your opinion without the lack of civility. Several members have complained and one moderator threatened to lock the thread if it doesn't stop. Btw, the point to starting another thread and asking you not to participate if you're not going to be civil is to prevent a lock down, not because I'm pouting. Oh, and "liberal" I supported Ron and Rand Paul and Johnson, no liberals. Can I say one more time that foreign policy is what's of paramount importance to me?

I'm just skipping the fluff and being blunt. It's quite amusing watching you get worked up though. Lol.. You were most certainly pouting. One of the moderators even collected your tears to wax his windshield with. And yes.. You brought the old deadbeat commie into the discussion so yes, liberal is an understatement! And one more thing... Our founding fathers weren't exactly civil minded men.. They shot the bastards!!

 

[Montecresto]

In 1844, James Polk ran for president on a platform of "manifest destiny". This was a vision and ambition of many Americans at the time that as a superior people in character and religion, it was our God given right that our country should span from sea to shinning sea. That was red meat to the religious Americans, but spelled big trouble for the indigenous peoples that occupied the land that Polk was eyeing, in some cases as long back as 12,000 years. At the time, the border of Texas stopped at the Nueces River, not down at the Rio Grande where it's at today. The federal government made an offer to the Mexican government to purchase the land between the Nueces and Rio Grande.

When that offer was rejected, Polk dispatched Union soldiers to build a small fort on the north bank of the Rio Grande. Seeing this, Mexican regulars attacked the fort. President Polk told the American people that the Mexican army crossed into Texas and attacked a US military installation. And this began the Mexican American War, and the beginning of Polk's plan to push America to the pacific. Many members of congress at the time wanted the border to be moved south all the way to Mexico City, and that threat was used to force Mexican surrender and the acceptance of the Treaty of Hidalgo. In which, by use of force, the US relieved Mexico of its land and increased the size of the US by 1/3 adding New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California to the union. Today, politicians love to point at Putin and criticise and demonize him for doing far less.

We have a long history of imperialism while pointing fingers at other imperialistic countries. Again, Ron Paul understood this, Gary Johnson understands this.

 

[Montecresto]

I wasn't being ugly.. Just direct and to the point. It amazes me how sinsitive our society has become.

I just told you that I don't care what you call me or what you say. I just don't want the thread to be locked because I have something to say.

 

[JTW]

I just told you that I don't care what you call me or what you say. I just don't want the thread to be locked because I have something to say.

Let's not confuse things.. I'm not calling you a dumbass... Just your liberal beliefs! Lol

 

[JTW]

Here

 

[JTW]

Just say'n..

 

[JTW]

For all those that are overly sensitive..

 

[CumminsPusher]

I guess my attempts at mellowing out the situation were a foolhardy to say the least. I'm not sure why these debates always go this way must just be everyone trying to get the world on their side and to see the light. Everyone has options that's part of what makes this nation but calling people names or flying off the handle on something that we as a little group here have no promising outcome towards a fix is crazy. These always go sideways and even though it's a thread designed to turn comments away from another one and keep everyone in check someone always losses it. Like Mopar said earlier is about where I'm at both have points but it doesn't even matter who I agree mostly with because lots of ugliness will overshadow it. Come on guys get back to a debate before both of your opinions are squashed.


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[JTW]

In 1844, James Polk ran for president on a platform of "manifest destiny". This was a vision and ambition of many Americans at the time that as a superior people in character and religion, it was our God given right that our country should span from sea to shinning sea. That was red meat to the religious Americans, but spelled big trouble for the indigenous peoples that occupied the land that Polk was eyeing, in some cases as long back as 12,000 years. At the time, the border of Texas stopped at the Nueces River, not down at the Rio Grande where it's at today. The federal government made an offer to the Mexican government to purchase the land between the Nueces and Rio Grande.

When that offer was rejected, Polk dispatched Union soldiers to build a small fort on the north bank of the Rio Grande. Seeing this, Mexican regulars attacked the fort. President Polk told the American people that the Mexican army crossed into Texas and attacked a US military installation. And this began the Mexican American War, and the beginning of Polk's plan to push America to the pacific. Many members of congress at the time wanted the border to be moved south all the way to Mexico City, and that threat was used to force Mexican surrender and the acceptance of the Treaty of Hidalgo. In which, by use of force, the US relieved Mexico of its land and increased the size of the US by 1/3 adding New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California to the union. Today, politicians love to point at Putin and criticise and demonize him for doing far less.

We have a long history of imperialism while pointing fingers at other imperialistic countries. Again, Ron Paul understood this, Gary Johnson understands this.

I understand history and our faults well.. I'm not blind to what we are and have been. But I disagree with you when it comes to Johnson. I think you're giving him too much credit. I don't like trump but I think you're fooling yourself to think Johnson will do any better!