P1000 Rear Wheel Hub / Axel Nut

[Manwell]

Trying to replace the rear bearing, can not get the hub nut off... Heated it with propane torch, literally standing and bouncing my 240 pound ass on the ratchet handle, and it won't budge. Maybe more heat... This is not a left handed thread is it? Could't see anything in the manual that would indicate such... wondering what I'm not seeing?

Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions?

 

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[RockRain]

Trying to replace the rear bearing, can not get the hub nut off... Heated it with propane torch, literally standing and bouncing my 240 pound ass on the ratchet handle, and it won't budge. Maybe more heat... This is not a left handed thread is it? Could't see anything in the manual that would indicate such... wondering what I'm not seeing?

Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions?

The nut is a right handed threads. Have you tried putting a piece of pipe over your ratchet to give you more leverage?

 

[Smitty335]

Trying to replace the rear bearing, can not get the hub nut off... Heated it with propane torch, literally standing and bouncing my 240 pound ass on the ratchet handle, and it won't budge. Maybe more heat... This is not a left handed thread is it? Could't see anything in the manual that would indicate such... wondering what I'm not seeing?

Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions?

Have you tried an impact

 

[Manwell]

The nut is a right handed threads. Have you tried putting a piece of pipe over your ratchet to give you more leverage?

I couldn't imagine that it was not right handed thread, but stranger things have happened! I thought about a cheater bar, but don't have one here... I keep the SXS at my cabin, so I have limited tools and such. Probably just going to take it to Honda, let them get me caught ups on the recalls and deal with the bearing. What I thought would be a relatively simple little project has not worked out as such!

Thanks for the help...

 

[Manwell]

Have you tried an impact

I'm betting an impact would get it, don't have one here...

 

[Smitty335]

I'm betting an impact would get it, don't have one here...

I bought an electric impact a few years ago for around the house, Tractor Supply $ 140.00, sure comes in handy.

 

[joeymt33]

I use a crappy Craftsman 19.2v impact and haven’t had an issue.

 

[Manwell]

Went out and picked up an electric impact, it did the trick! Unfortunately for me, my snap ring pliers are not manly enough to get the snap ring off!! If it's not one thing it is another... I'm taking it to my companies shop next week, they have the tools to do it right. I will reinstall it next weekend when I'm back up here.

Appreciate the replies!!

 

[ch33br0h]

I find myself at this very point today also....
can't get that dang axle nut to move.

Was also wondering if it was a backward thread, glad to find confirmation that its not and I just need more power!

 

[PJon]

Had to take one of those nuts off this past weekend in an attempt to grease wheel bearings. I couldn’t break it by hand, so had to break out the ole’ air impact. Got if off and then found out that the wheel bearing greaser that I bought a year ago wouldn’t slide over the axle. Checked around for retorque numbers and found that the nuts should only be torqued to 101 ft/lbs. No idea why they were so tight from the factory.

 

[bumperm]

Had to take one of those nuts off this past weekend in an attempt to grease wheel bearings. I couldn’t break it by hand, so had to break out the ole’ air impact. Got if off and then found out that the wheel bearing greaser that I bought a year ago wouldn’t slide over the axle. Checked around for retorque numbers and found that the nuts should only be torqued to 101 ft/lbs. No idea why they were so tight from the factory.

I swear they've managed to torque the 6mm (5mm hex) bolts, used to fasten the color panels and a lot more, to over 300 ft/lbs.

 

[P1K5Dave]

Yeah, I torque these things to 101 lbs, but still have to use a bigass breaker bar to get them off.

 

[P1K5Dave]

... the wheel bearing greaser that I bought a year ago wouldn’t slide over the axle.

So the ID of the greaser was too small? You do need to kind of pick up on the axle to get the greaser on, but I'd guess you would have figured that out.

 

[PJon]

Yes t

So the ID of the greaser was too small? You do need to kind of pick up on the axle to get the greaser on, but I'd guess you would have figured that out.

The I.D. of the tool was smaller that the O.D of the axle

 

[slowdryrider]

Yes t

The I.D. of the tool was smaller that the O.D of the axle

Yup the one I have is like that too. For me It's not to big of a problem to pull the hub out and grease the bearings this way. It would be nice to have one that would be the proper fit. Be a lot less work LOL

 

[P1K5Dave]

In case anyone wants a bearing greaser that actually fits their machine, I got mine from these guys. I think it's the best tool in my Pioneer toolkit.

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[EFold]

Removed mine today they were extremely difficult too. I found that I couldn't get them to budge while trying to stand on or hammer on the breaker bar but if I pulled up and bounced it with the suspension it broke free pretty easily. I also put a dab of PB on threads to help free it up while I worked the cotter pin out. It also helps to have the Hillbilly Brake to hold pressure against the axel.
It sure is satisfying to push all that grease in the hub and see it come out fresh the other side. How often are y'all greasing bearings for regular riding? I'm thinking about doing it on my #1 interval with the spark arrestor clean out aince that one is a pretty light service.

 

[P1K5Dave]

How often are y'all greasing bearings for regular riding?

I've been hitting mine with the bearing greaser when I do brakes, which is around 1500-1900 miles. I had a bearing squealing at around 3k because they had never been greased by the previous owner. I didn't even replace that bearing, just got it lubed up,and kept it that way, and it's been fine. Now nearing 10k miles.

 

[Hondasxs]

I disagree. [My opinion]

These grease tools are cool and all but they give false impressions you are doing good for the life of the bearing.

In most all cases. Including reading above. You are creating problems that will leade to premature failure.

"Packing" the bearing may be a worse than letting it run dry. A packed bearing will increase heat and cause it to push the grease out of the way thus busting open the seals and allowing debris to enter at a higher rate.

While I have greased mine. I usually just put a small amount using a needle to both sides of rollers.

Please do your own research on overgreaseing bearings.



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[P1K5Dave]

I can see where overdoing it could be problematic.

I don't jack mine up with a ton of grease, just about 4 pumps per wheel. The little added risk of stuff coming in because stuff is going out seems negligible to me compared to running too dry.

I like the way the greaser tool gets the grease in, through the split in the race, rather than going at the seals with a needle.