P1000 Skid plates without self tapping screws

[Prntckt]

Is there a good skid plate system for the P1000 that doesn’t utilize self tapping screws as part of the installation procedure?

 

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[Scoop]

I'm doing the Trail Armor skids & A-Arms. They use some self tappers, but they use a good number of the OEM bolts. If I ever feel the screws aren't secure enough, I'll just replace all the self tappers with rivnuts.

 

[ToddACimer]

Invest in a decent nutsert tool and you'll never have to worry about self tappers again. Also keep in mind the OEM bolts are threaded into holes just a few threads deep. Nutserts are easy to replace if need be.

 

[Prntckt]

Invest in a decent nutsert tool and you'll never have to worry about self tappers again. Also keep in mind the OEM bolts are threaded into holes just a few threads deep. Nutserts are easy to replace if need be.

Todd, could you recommend a nutsert tool ? What skid plate system did you install on your recent build?

 

[ToddACimer]

Todd, could you recommend a nutsert tool ? What skid plate system did you install on your recent build?

I have had this tool for almost 5 years. I'd say I've installed upwards of 500 nutserts with it. The 8mm and 5/16 are tough but you can spin them part way on and hit them twice.

rzx 8" RIVET NUT GUN M3 M4 M5,m6... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XVB3MMG?tag=sxsweb24-20

For skid plates I bought a 4x8 sheet of black 3/8" UHMW. I had 16" cut off 1 side and uses that for the floor board skids. Down the center I have a single piece 32" skid plate with all the stock vent holes plus a few others. I've gusseted all of my round tube sliders outside the main frame with tube gussets from RuffStuff and gusseted all of the main frame crossmembers. I also added a sub transmission crossmember to protect the sub trans shifter.

 

[Prntckt]

Thanks Todd. I spent some time tonight reading parts of your build thread. Looks like theres a lot of good info there. Did you order your nutserts from Amazon as well?

 

[JACKAL]

Is there a good skid plate system for the P1000 that doesn’t utilize self tapping screws as part of the installation procedure?

I've had the Trail Armor full skids, they attach in 3 sections which is easier to handle but have had the side sections repeatedly tore off. Went with a 1 piece skids on my next machine from FUTV (Factory UTV) and they have been perfect over 11k miles.

 

[ToddACimer]

Thanks Todd. I spent some time tonight reading parts of your build thread. Looks like theres a lot of good info there. Did you order your nutserts from Amazon as well?

Yes. I typically buy them on Amazon. I like the astro pneumatic ones
Astro Pneumatic Tool RN6M M6 6mm... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J7X4DKS?tag=sxsweb24-20

 

[Prntckt]

I've had the Trail Armor full skids, they attach in 3 sections which is easier to handle but have had the side sections repeatedly tore off. Went with a 1 piece skids on my next machine from FUTV (Factory UTV) and they have been perfect over 11k miles.

Would it be difficult to remove the FUTV one piece skid on a Pioneer P1000 to perform oil changes?

 

[JACKAL]

Would it be difficult to remove the FUTV one piece skid on a Pioneer P1000 to perform oil changes?

Not if you use a chain hoist to stand the machine up vertical for removal. I leave mine on for oil changes.

 

[TripleB]

Not if you use a chain hoist to stand the machine up vertical for removal. I leave mine on for oil changes.

Me too. I already dread changing the oil with the pioneer 1000. Removing the skids would just add to inconvenience that's already there.

 

[Remington]

Me too. I already dread changing the oil with the pioneer 1000. Removing the skids would just add to inconvenience that's already there.

Yep, i hate it too with the skids on. But it is what it is Lol. Lots of rags haha

 

[Prntckt]

I have had this tool for almost 5 years. I'd say I've installed upwards of 500 nutserts with it. The 8mm and 5/16 are tough but you can spin them part way on and hit them twice.

rzx 8" RIVET NUT GUN M3 M4 M5,m6... Amazon.com

For skid plates I bought a 4x8 sheet of black 3/8" UHMW. I had 16" cut off 1 side and uses that for the floor board skids. Down the center I have a single piece 32" skid plate with all the stock vent holes plus a few others. I've gusseted all of my round tube sliders outside the main frame with tube gussets from RuffStuff and gusseted all of the main frame crossmembers. I also added a sub transmission crossmember to protect the sub trans shifter.

I used the rivnut tool that you recommended to install my skid plate. It worked very well. Not sure how I got by without it! I can see a lot of uses in the future for it. I ordered the tube gussets from RuffStuff and fabricated the reinforcements for the outside tubes. Now planning to do the reinforcement of the crossmembers and fabricate the sub transmission crossmember. Thanks for the recommendations!

 

[ToddACimer]

I used the rivnut tool that you recommended to install my skid plate. It worked very well. Not sure how I got by without it! I can see a lot of uses in the future for it. I ordered the tube gussets from RuffStuff and fabricated the reinforcements for the outside tubes. Now planning to do the reinforcement of the crossmembers and fabricate the sub transmission crossmember. Thanks for the recommendations!

Glad it worked for you. I use the tool all the time

 

[Prntckt]

I've had the Trail Armor full skids, they attach in 3 sections which is easier to handle but have had the side sections repeatedly tore off. Went with a 1 piece skids on my next machine from FUTV (Factory UTV) and they have been perfect over 11k miles.

I decided to go with the Factory UTV skids. That center section was a chore to install from below by myself, but I am pleased with the result. I used rivnuts instead of the self tapping screws provided in the kit. Turned out nice. Thought I'd get a picture of it while it still was shiny and new.

 

[JACKAL]

I decided to go with the Factory UTV skids. That center section was a chore to install from below by myself, but I am pleased with the result. I used rivnuts instead of the self tapping screws provided in the kit. Turned out nice. Thought I'd get a picture of it while it still was shiny and new.

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Two easy ways to put that one big piece on and off by yourself.

Stand the machine up vertical and use a ratchet strap hooked to front bumper then hooked to front oil drain hole, then you can pivot and slide one handed until you get a few bolts started.

Or use a floor jack to hold it up against frame while aligned with bolt holes.

 

[Scoop]

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Tell me about your plastic ramps, @Prntckt. Are those the Rhino ramps? Standard or Max? I'd likely only use them on the P1K5, as there are a ton of reviews showing them collapse under the load of cars and trucks (what they claim the are for).

 

[ToddACimer]

Tell me about your plastic ramps, @Prntckt. Are those the Rhino ramps? Standard or Max? I'd likely only use them on the P1K5, as there are a ton of reviews showing them collapse under the load of cars and trucks (what they claim the are for).

I have a pair and use them all the time. Not sure on the brand

 

[WagginTail]

Nice work. Looks good