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RIGHT. The puter controls your brake activity, which locks the spinning wheel and sends traction to the one on the ground. WITHOUT that puter doing that you have TWO wheel drive. It does not matter that the diff is locked if the wheels do not turn .... LOL. It really is that simple.

Nope. You still dont understand how it works. it really is that simple.

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Nope. You still dont understand how it works. it really is that simple.

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I'm confused as usual, When I was really broke and drove what I had, the rigs I owned didn't have limited slip diffs, and the way I got the tire that wasn't spinning to start trying was to apply some brake and even drove with the e brake on a couple clicks. I would think the I4WD system would work the same. So IF you broke an axel, I could see where the diff wouldn't know what's going on. It would be easy to find out, some one with a LE jack up one tire on the front clamp off the brake line, get both rear tires off the ground and gas the heck out of it, be sure to open the garage door first! HA! I've rode with several people that have the LE's, they go where the rest of us go without the I4WD. I've only seen one get stuck and that was because he was high centered, all four tires where off the ground.
 
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Nope. You still dont understand how it works. it really is that simple.

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lol ...... I do not need to understand the internal workings of it. That cable locking the diff does not equal both front wheels pulling. THAT aspect is controlled by a computer.

But when that cable is pulled on my Pioneer the front diff is locked AND BOTH front wheels will turn and pull if on the ground. I4wd adds at LEAST one more component to make that happen.

Exactly what was wrong with the locking diff on the standard P1k? NOTHING that I know of. Exactly what is BETTER about the I4wd? Nothing I know of! What is the difference between the two? The computer decided how/when to apply brake/torque. It really is that simple.
 
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lol ...... I do not need to understand the internal workings of it. That cable locking the diff does not equal both front wheels pulling. THAT aspect is controlled by a computer.

But when that cable is pulled on my Pioneer the front diff is locked AND BOTH front wheels will turn and pull if on the ground. I4wd adds at LEAST one more component to make that happen.

Exactly what was wrong with the locking diff on the standard P1k? NOTHING that I know of. Exactly what is BETTER about the I4wd? Nothing I know of! What is the difference between the two? The computer decided how/when to apply brake/torque. It really is that simple.

Will keep your axle in one piece


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lol ...... I do not need to understand the internal workings of it. That cable locking the diff does not equal both front wheels pulling. THAT aspect is controlled by a computer.

But when that cable is pulled on my Pioneer the front diff is locked AND BOTH front wheels will turn and pull if on the ground. I4wd adds at LEAST one more component to make that happen.

Exactly what was wrong with the locking diff on the standard P1k? NOTHING that I know of. Exactly what is BETTER about the I4wd? Nothing I know of! What is the difference between the two? The computer decided how/when to apply brake/torque. It really is that simple.
You keep changing your story. I have the same cable but you said I only have 2 wheel drive....now is it 2....3 .. .or 4...?

But you dont have to UNDERSTAND how it works to tell me how it works....? That is facinating. On a machine that I own and can clearly see how it works....




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Axle I have took out have been in lock and turned full lock , can’t see the I system binding it to the point of breakage


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That only helps front axles.. front axles break by either driver error or giving it holy hell and not stopping when the little voice says it’s time to quit!
You're wrong

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That only helps front axles.. front axles break by either driver error or giving it holy hell and not stopping when the little voice says it’s time to quit!

I beg to differ , my first axle was on level ground , I forgot to unlock the front , backed up to turn around and as I turned hard it took the cage out , second one was in a bad spot but was agin backing up and turned hard this popping the cup


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I beg to differ , my first axle was on level ground , I forgot to unlock the front , backed up to turn around and as I turned hard it took the cage out , second one was in a bad spot but was agin backing up and turned hard this popping the cup


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That is driver error at its finest!
 
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I agree but with the I system it would of never happened


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You keep changing your story. I have the same cable but you said I only have 2 wheel drive....now is it 2....3 .. .or 4...?

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OK, I will accept blame for mistakenly thinking we would be thinking of the same scenario. I should have typed more thoroughly the scenario in my mind.

You are climbing a hill with I4wd engaged. Rear tires are on ground and pulling. Left front wheel is up in air, spinning. Right front wheel is on ground, not moving. The reason it is not moving is due to a problem with the apparatus (I assume computer) that is not working correctly (this is that additional component I referred to earlier). Whether the computer is broke, froze up, had a brain fart, etc does not matter. At THAT point you effectively have 2 wheel drive even with 3 wheels on the ground.
 
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OK, I will accept blame for mistakenly thinking we would be thinking of the same scenario. I should have typed more thoroughly the scenario in my mind.

You are climbing a hill with I4wd engaged. Rear tires are on ground and pulling. Left front wheel is up in air, spinning. Right front wheel is on ground, not moving. The reason it is not moving is due to a problem with the apparatus (I assume computer) that is not working correctly (this is that additional component I referred to earlier). Whether the computer is broke, froze up, had a brain fart, etc does not matter. At THAT point you effectively have 2 wheel drive even with 3 wheels on the ground.

And your eating ice cream with a fork ? At this point what difference does it make ?


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