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You won't have any issues with the relay in the PDM. I am running a 50" 400 watt led light bar off of that 35 amp PDM relay without any problems.
thanks for the response. just reading through this massive post again and see on pg 14 you have move the PDM location back i like this but how did you fasten it there amoung all the other wiring ? pic is from above so difficult to see. thanks for your time Jackal
 
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thanks for the response. just reading through this massive post again and see on pg 14 you have move the PDM location back i like this but how did you fasten it there amoung all the other wiring ? pic is from above so difficult to see. thanks for your time Jackal
I literally used zip ties on the PDM to the small metal hoop coming off the frame crossmember.
 
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Can you post a close up pic of where the light bar attaches to the windshield frame?


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Can you post a close up pic of where the light bar attaches to the windshield frame?


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Taylorman...just look though his build. He has pic already posted that you will be able see how he did it both inside and out. After I decided to place mine is that location, I searched this site to see if someone else thought that was a good idea. Jackal seems to think it's OK and after mounting my 40" curved light bar it's really a great spot.
 
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Questions?
1. Did you drill into the roll cage and hood to mount your 4 cube lights?
2. Can you explain what the bellows are for on the differentials and transmission?


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Questions?
1. Did you drill into the roll cage and hood to mount your 4 cube lights?
2. Can you explain what the bellows are for on the differentials and transmission?


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Sorry been busy moving, my machine is 400 miles from me in an enclosed trailer so I can't take any pics of how the light is mounted to the glass windshield frame. There are some decent pics of it if you go back trough the thread. I mounted the cube light using the OEM holes on the front fender, simply take out the bolt place the light bracket over it and use a 15mm longer bolt that was used originally. The rear cubes are simply bolted to the OEM upper tabs that the factory nets were attached to. If you go to my Garage all pics there are full size 20MP they are 8MB per pic use a decent screen on a computer instead of trapacrap app on a 4" phone screen and you can see all the details of how everything is mounted.
 
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What kind of volt meter did you use? Also what type of cradle holds your Garmin? It appears to be powered?


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What kind of volt meter did you use? Also what type of cradle holds your Garmin? It appears to be powered?


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Here is the type of voltmeter I used he's has them in several colors:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00C2NTJHS/?tag=sxsweb24-20

Here is the cradle I use for all Garmin Montana series GPS units. It is self powered has additional audio output as well as serial data output if you're into some really hi-speed stuff such as real-time transponder via laptop etc. I just use the power though. Also it has a tool that locks the GPS in place so someone trying to steal it has to rip the whole thing out to get it. Just add 2 RAM 1" balls and a 2" connector to finish mounting it to the dash plate.

Amazon.com: Amps Rugged Mount with aud.-power: Garmin: Cell Phones & Accessories
 
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Another question regarding the volt meter. Is the purpose of this to measure the battery voltage of the spare isolated battery when the engine is not running? I don't see a reason for a bolt meter when the engine is running.


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Another question regarding the volt meter. Is the purpose of this to measure the battery voltage of the spare isolated battery when the engine is not running? I don't see a reason for a bolt meter when the engine is running.

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The P1K stator has a max output of 650 watts, anytime you are running accessories in excess of the 650 watts you are slowly discharging your battery. Without a voltmeter you may never know you have run your batteries down even while driving that the machine may not restart due to low voltage. My accessories will draw 900 watts with everything going except the winch. This is especially true for a technical trail where a lot of winching is involved in the dark with many led lights running etc. for example. This is unlikely in a dual battery setup but not impossible. Better to know at a glance for $8 than to potentially strand yourself many miles from anyone. I tend to go off into mountain trails alone so if you get stranded might be several hours to a few days before someone comes along.
 
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Gotcha. I'm trying to understand how the volt meter measures battery voltage while engine is running. It seems to me that if your batteries are low the volt meter will be measuring the output of the stater so how would you know that the batteries are low? I don't understand how a battery isolator affects the voltage of the battery that your accessories are running off. When you have a battery isolator does that mean your voltmeter is measuring just the voltage of the spare battery?


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Gotcha. I'm trying to understand how the volt meter measures battery voltage while engine is running. It seems to me that if your batteries are low the volt meter will be measuring the output of the stater so how would you know that the batteries are low? I don't understand how a battery isolator affects the voltage of the battery that your accessories are running off. When you have a battery isolator does that mean your voltmeter is measuring just the voltage of the spare battery?


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When the load on the system exceeds the stator output voltage drops. Example typical key on engine off I see 12.6 volts, start engine stays a steady 14.1 volts, I turn everything on it dips to 12.2 volts with winch under load.

Don't read too much into it.Get one or not personal choice.
 
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Gotcha. I'm trying to understand how the volt meter measures battery voltage while engine is running. It seems to me that if your batteries are low the volt meter will be measuring the output of the stater so how would you know that the batteries are low? I don't understand how a battery isolator affects the voltage of the battery that your accessories are running off. When you have a battery isolator does that mean your voltmeter is measuring just the voltage of the spare battery?


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The voltage meters are connected directly to the batteries. The main battery meter will show the voltage going to the main battery. If it is low the meter will show that it is low. When the rig is on it will charge the main battery. When the main battery is charged it will send the current through the isolator to,the accessory battery and charge it. You will then see the meter for the accessory battery start to charge up. There are two voltage meters in the set up one for each battery.
 
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I ended up getting about 1/2 my switches today, enough to play with in setting up the jumper lines for the whole set. What I have pictured below is incomplete (using two 4 switch banks instead of two 6 switch banks*) but serves the purpose for now in demonstrating on setting up the various switches. *Note to self when ordering from Amazon make sure it coming from USA not China or you wait 6 weeks, live n learn ;)

Switch Schematic for SVT switches:
View attachment 8468


So for the wiring pictured below here is the layout:
RED - Hot wire coming from Honda Black/White ignition keyed accessory wire to the switches power in terminal.
WHITE - Hot wire coming from Honda Brown light switch wire to switched backlit LED's - Switches light up when headlights on.
GREEN - Ground wire from switches to ground.
BLACK - jumper wire from Winch Power ON/OFF to Winch Momentary IN/OUT rocker - A secondary measure of killing power to winch solenoid.
View attachment 8469

Initial testing, everything lights up perfect:
View attachment 8471 View attachment 8472 View attachment 8473

Well that's it for today, tomorrow will be installing the dual battery wiring kit with isolator, cutting out a temp switch plate from OEM skid plate material, mounting the switches in the switch plate & dash, installing (4)- 18 watt pod lights for front & rear added lighting, and maybe even getting around to getting the GPS installed.
jACKAL THANKS YES I HAVE WIRED MY PLATE THE SAME AS ABOVE. ONE QUESTON I HAVE IS ON THE 7 PIN SWITCH YOU HAVE IN INK PEN DRAWN ON SWITCH CARD INDICATING YOU WERE POSSIBLY JUMPING #3 AND # 6 AND #1 AND #4? IS THAT CORRECT? LAST QUESTION I DONT UNDERSTAND THE CARD WHEN IT STATES CONNECT #2 (+) FROM YOUR SOURCE AND #5 SAYS SAME THING DO I JUMP THOSE OR WHY IS THERE TWO. ALSO CONNECT #6 TO YOUR RELAY OR ACC.( PUSH DOWN SECOND APPLICATIONS) #3, 4, 6 ALL STATE THIS AND #1 HAS SAME EXCEPT ( PUSH UP APPLICATION). COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THIS LANGUAGE AS THERE ARE NOT PICS THAT I HAVE SEEN ON YOUR BUILD OF WIRING ONCE THE PDM IS ATTACHED. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP.
 
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jACKAL THANKS YES I HAVE WIRED MY PLATE THE SAME AS ABOVE. ONE QUESTON I HAVE IS ON THE 7 PIN SWITCH YOU HAVE IN INK PEN DRAWN ON SWITCH CARD INDICATING YOU WERE POSSIBLY JUMPING #3 AND # 6 AND #1 AND #4? IS THAT CORRECT? LAST QUESTION I DONT UNDERSTAND THE CARD WHEN IT STATES CONNECT #2 (+) FROM YOUR SOURCE AND #5 SAYS SAME THING DO I JUMP THOSE OR WHY IS THERE TWO. ALSO CONNECT #6 TO YOUR RELAY OR ACC.( PUSH DOWN SECOND APPLICATIONS) #3, 4, 6 ALL STATE THIS AND #1 HAS SAME EXCEPT ( PUSH UP APPLICATION). COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THIS LANGUAGE AS THERE ARE NOT PICS THAT I HAVE SEEN ON YOUR BUILD OF WIRING ONCE THE PDM IS ATTACHED. THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOUR HELP.


OK back to basic if you can't understand the pin out card that should have came with your switches,

There is 8 possible spades for the back of the rockers they are universally numbered as such:
8 7
1 4
2 5
3 6
as in top of picture here: 17083 7aa9fde911bcbb2f5862470b4f53aa8a

EACH SPADE DOES A DIFFERENT THING DEPENDING ON WHO MAKES IT!!! OTTRW is not the same as STV

This is ONLY for STV Switches here: 17084 7beeade91b05af18df6efc9c2c2f6e90


For a 7 Pin Rocker Switch from STV that is a momentary on UP and momentary on DOWN to run a winch in or out and back lighting you would wire it as follows:

Spade #7 connect to ground wire. (There is no #8 position spade)

Spade #2 & Spade #5
are for power source in - either from PDM or key on power source (Honda Black wire with white stripe) These can be jumped together, one wire in then jump to the other makes no different which one both have to have power in.

Spade #1 & Spade #4 are to Relay or accessory powered on when rocker is pressed UP (typically only need one of these, unless you are rocking double winches on same bumper)

Spade #3 & Spade #6 are to Relay or accessory powered on when rocker is pressed DOWN (typically only need one of these, unless you are rocking double winches on same bumper)

This type of rocker only lights up when you are holding the rocker up or down.


For a 5 Pin Rocker Switch from STV that is a ON / Off and back lighting you would wire it as follows:

Spade #7 & Spade #8 connect to ground wire. These can be jumped together, one wire in then jump to the other makes no different which one both have to go to a ground.

Spade #2 for power source in - either from PDM or key on power source (Honda Black wire with white stripe) These can be jumped together, one wire in then jump to the other makes no different which one both have to have power in.

Spade #6 is for Light source power in (Honda Brown wire) Switch will be backlit when lights are turned on only.

Spade #3 to Relay or accessory powered on when rocker is flipped ON or Up

There is no spade for positions #1, #4, #5 on the 5 terminal rocker switch.
 
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Where are you located. I am close to royal blue.
 
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Where are you located. I am close to royal blue.
Literally on top of the mountain immediately West of the town Pioneer overlooking Elk Valley. 7 miles to I-75 exit 141 via TN 297 & TN 63
 
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Questions?
1. Did you drill into the roll cage and hood to mount your 4 cube lights?
2. Can you explain what the bellows are for on the differentials and transmission?


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No I didn't drill any holes to run wiring ran heavy insulation trailer wiring 14ga x 4 wires along ROPS to power rear light bars and pods.
Bellows were to eliminate possibility of contamination (water) entering via open vent tubes.
 
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