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[Montecresto]

My buddy in Alberta told me, oh you can’t shoot a Grizzly, they are protected.
Haha
Yeah right. I said I’m sorry but if he looks at me sideways, Bang.
Haha
Caper

Oh yeah, we blow up the grizzly if we have to. Best thing is to stay out of his country. Here’s what Lewis and Clark thought of them…😂


It was the largest bear they'd ever seen, a great grizzly bear that weighed an estimated 600 pounds. A "most tremendous looking animal, and extreemly hard to kill," wrote Lewis in his journal on May 5, 1805. Clark described the grizzly as "verry large and a turrible looking animal." Clark and another member of the expedition fired 10 shots at it before it died.

Several tribes of Native Americans had told Lewis and Clark about grizzly bears. The tribes would only attack these great bears if there were 6-10 people in their hunting party, and even then the bears would sometimes kill one of them. The first grizzlies Lewis saw during the expedition were two smaller bears. He and another hunter had easily killed one of them. That day Lewis wrote in his journal that although the Native Americans with their bows and arrows might have problems, the grizzlies were no match for skilled rifleman. He soon changed his mind.

 

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[Montecresto]

Lewis was out scouting alone on June 15, 1805. He decided to make camp and shot a buffalo. As he was watching the buffalo fall, a grizzly bear came rushing towards him. Lewis raised his gun to shoot and then realized he had not reloaded his riffle. The bear was getting closer. There were no trees or bushes nearby, but there was a river. Lewis quickly ran into the water. The bear followed. When the bear saw Lewis in the water, for no apparent reason he stopped and ran in the other direction. Lewis was lucky. After that he thought that the Corps (Lewis and Clark's expedition party) should not go out alone. Even at camp, he thought they should sleep with their guns beside them in case of bear attacks.

 

[Caper]

Oh yeah, we blow up the grizzly if we have to. Best thing is to stay out of his country. Here’s what Lewis and Clark thought of them…😂


It was the largest bear they'd ever seen, a great grizzly bear that weighed an estimated 600 pounds. A "most tremendous looking animal, and extreemly hard to kill," wrote Lewis in his journal on May 5, 1805. Clark described the grizzly as "verry large and a turrible looking animal." Clark and another member of the expedition fired 10 shots at it before it died.

Several tribes of Native Americans had told Lewis and Clark about grizzly bears. The tribes would only attack these great bears if there were 6-10 people in their hunting party, and even then the bears would sometimes kill one of them. The first grizzlies Lewis saw during the expedition were two smaller bears. He and another hunter had easily killed one of them. That day Lewis wrote in his journal that although the Native Americans with their bows and arrows might have problems, the grizzlies were no match for skilled rifleman. He soon changed his mind.

And 10 shots, how many missed. Haha. And you have to go for the front shoulder to knock him down, then another shot.
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[Caper]

Lewis was out scouting alone on June 15, 1805. He decided to make camp and shot a buffalo. As he was watching the buffalo fall, a grizzly bear came rushing towards him. Lewis raised his gun to shoot and then realized he had not reloaded his riffle. The bear was getting closer. There were no trees or bushes nearby, but there was a river. Lewis quickly ran into the water. The bear followed. When the bear saw Lewis in the water, for no apparent reason he stopped and ran in the other direction. Lewis was lucky. After that he thought that the Corps (Lewis and Clark's expedition party) should not go out alone. Even at camp, he thought they should sleep with their guns beside them in case of bear attacks.

Yup. We hunt a giant ranch in Jenner Alberta, and there are Grizzlies, because I saw the giant paw tracks in the snow, and some guys sleep in a tent with a stove pipe sticking out. Haha, nope. Howard Johnson is a lot more comfortable.
Caper

 

[Montecresto]

And 10 shots, how many missed. Haha. And you have to go for the front shoulder to knock him down, then another shot.
Caper

No, all ten shots hit the bear, two passed through his lungs. They were shooting large (50 caliber) balls that traveled at a slower velocity than todays but still lethal.

 

[Caper]

No, all ten shots hit the bear, two passed through his lungs. They were shooting large (50 caliber) balls that traveled at a slower velocity than todays but still lethal.

50 cal, yes but no grooves to make it go straight. A a 30.06 with a 250 grain , he’d drop.
Haha
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[Montecresto]

50 cal, yes but no grooves to make it go straight. A a 30.06 with a 250 grain , he’d drop.
Haha
Caper

They got there accuracy from the length of the barrel, think full choke shotgun. Similar principle. You ever see how long those rifles were…😳

 

[Montecresto]

 

[Caper]

They got there accuracy from the length of the barrel, think full choke shotgun. Similar principle. You ever see how long those rifles were…😳

I shot one a few years ago at the gun club. The newer 50 cal black powder have grooves and are a lot more accurate, but you still have to be close. No 300 yard shots.
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[Caper]

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I have a .24 ga double barrel shotgun that kinda looks like that.
Has two hammers. Been in the family since Scotland. Late 1800’s.
I have a box of shells but can’t get anymore. There is someone in the states that sells them but really hard to find.
Caper

 

[Montecresto]

50 caliber. The long rifle is said by modern experts to have a range of 80 to 100 yards for the average user. An experienced shooter can extend the median range of the long rifle to 200-300 yards.

 

[Montecresto]

I have a .24 ga double barrel shotgun that kinda looks like that.
Has two hammers. Been in the family since Scotland. Late 1800’s.
I have a box of shells but can’t get anymore. There is someone in the states that sells them but really hard to find.
Caper

Boy that’s a keeper!!!!

 

[Caper]

50 caliber. The long rifle is said by modern experts to have a range of 80 to 100 yards for the average user. An experienced shooter can extend the median range of the long rifle to 200-300 yards.

I would think even 200 yards would be a hell of a shot even with a long barrel with no grooves to make it spin.
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[Caper]

Boy that’s a keeper!!!!

It’s a really great grouse gun
Caper

 

[Montecresto]

I would think even 200 yards would be a hell of a shot even with a long barrel with no grooves to make it spin.
Caper

Read the journals of Lewis and Clark and see what expert marksmen they were. Those men worked so hard they ate an average of 12 pounds of meat a day per man. Two men were hired into the corp of discovery to hunt to feed the rest. They hunted all day long every day….

 

[Montecresto]

It’s a really great grouse gun
Caper

Do I need to find you some shells?

 

[Caper]

Read the journals of Lewis and Clark and see what expert marksmen they were. Those men worked so hard they ate an average of 12 pounds of meat a day per man. Two men were hired into the corp of discovery to hunt to feed the rest. They hunted all day long every day….

I’ve made a few 300 yard shots, with a 30.06 and a .243. 30.06 definitely hits harder at that distance. 243 goes straight and flat but not a big hit at that range. You have to hit where you aim. A wounded deer can run a long way. All my deer have been one shot and dropped in their tracks. No suffering.
I’d love to try a musket for that distance
Caper

 

[Caper]

Do I need to find you some shells?

Please
😘
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[Caper]

I’m watching the football game
2 minutes left and a tie game. SAN Fran driving. Should be a good ending
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[Caper]

Wow
Who lost money on that one.
Caper