P1000 DIY Skid Plate Template

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Hey, This is the first time I've checked back in on this thread in a while. Glad to see so many people making use of the files! I've sent the file out probably 300-400 times so far. Sorry for the slow replies to some of you guys... Feel free to get the files from anybody I've already sent them too. Looks like there is some modified/new files going around too, that's awesome!

My last pioneer is sold, and I just got a 2020 Talon X. Anybody that doesn't need the bed or 5 seats should really consider a talon. It is hard to describe how much better it is than the pioneer. I can't believe I waited so long to make the switch. I was putting maybe 400 miles a year on my pioneer... the first day I had the talon I did 110 miles. Wife loves it, way more comfortable, and you know what they say, happy wife happy life.
 
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It's on. Fit really close to perfect. I messed up a contour measurement on the outer frame rail but it doesn't affect anything but my OCD lol. (you can see it in the fifth picture) I had to oblong the four holes on the front to get them perfect so I'll update that on my DXF file and they will be spot on from here out. Total cost $429.97.

material plus shipping from Regal Plastic $359. 20 pcs of the Honda OEM washers $40. 50 pcs M6x1.0x20MM flange bolts from Amazon $18.98. 20 pcs M6x1.0x50MM bolt $11.99. 1 pcs 25MM and 2 pcs 10MM spacers free from the scrap pile at work, 4 pcs M10x1.25 bolts free from sway bar removal.

I bought 3 sets of the skids. one for myself and two for friends. one guy has decided to trade his Pioneer in on a Talon. no idea how much shipping would be but I may be putting it up for sale on here if I can't find someone local.
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Very nice job! I especially like the openings in front of the back wheels and the slight flair out on the side rails. Someone better jump on the one you have for sale.
 
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Could I please get a copy of the file if it's not to much trouble. [email protected] Thanks Matt

which one? I need to update mine yet. I'm hoping to have time Monday, but it will more than likely be later next week. I'm on vacation starting in 5 minutes lol.
 
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Just curious if anyone would be interested in a template for their skid plate. I have drawn it in CAD and am thinking I could make it available as a PDF that you could send to your local office depot or printing store, so long as they have a 36" wide plotter, and have it printed all as one piece as a banner.

It is a three piece design with the seams running front to back. One large piece to cover the belly and two small pieces to cover the rock rails if you want them. It can be made from a single 4' x 8' sheet of UHMW or whatever other material you choose. I ordered a piece of 1/2" UHMW that I am picking up on Monday in order to test the template and make sure my measurements were all good.

To mount the large belly piece you can reuse the factory hardware (I will need longer bolts), plus an additional 4 bolts and washers and one 1" spacer (nylon or brass I suppose will work fine). For the side pieces you will have to order some more cup washers and either rivnuts or self tappers.

Let me know if anyone is interested and I'll take the next step. Otherwise I'll make mine and be done LOL...

UPDATE - skid plate template is ready for release!

Message me on HondaSXS.com or email at [email protected] and I will send you the template.

All you need is a 4'x8' sheet of material, jig saw, 1" spade bit, drill, maybe a circular saw, scissors, and a sharpie. You will need fourteen longer M6x1.0 bolts (I used 30mm) and two significantly longer bolts for the locations which require the spacers (I used 60mm). You will also need four M10x1.25 bolts with about a 30mm length and four fender washers to go with them. I purchased all this hardware at Lowes, in stainless. If you opt to install the two optional bolts near the front of the frame you will need two additional cup washers from Honda (50403-HL3-A00) as well as two long M6x1.0 bolts with nuts and regular washers. These two bolts are not in factory locations and require you to drill a small 1/4" clearance hole in the sheet metal gusset in the frame. Sorry for the long write-up, but here it is:

I finally got around to finishing up the template and am ready to email it out to anyone who wants it. To recap, it is a single PDF file that can be printed at your local office depot or anywhere that has a 36" wide format printer. My local office depot printed mine and it was $18. The PDF is 36" by 144" (or 12'). It can be printed in black and white to save money (the line weights are different and will make the print decipherable even in b&w). When setting up the print you need to ensure that any option which reads "print to 'original size', 'original scale' or '1:1'" should be used; anything that reads something to the affect of "scaled to fit" should not be used.

It is crucial that the template is printed to the exact scale I have provided, otherwise it will be completely worthless. Just for this reason I have included a small portion of a ruler which will print out on each end of the template. This way, no matter which end of the template comes out first, the person printing the template can check with a ruler if the printed measurements align with their ruler. If they do not, they can go ahead and cancel the print and try again. After it is all printed out, you should check with a tape measure to ensure that the total length of the main belly skid is exactly 93" long and 30" wide. Again, if the measurements are not accurate then throw the template away; if you use it, you will be wasting your sheet of skid plate material. If the template measures correctly then proceed :)


Step 1 - Get some saw horses so you don't break your back... too bad.


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Step 2 - Unroll your template and check the measurements to see if the high school kid at office depot followed your instructions correctly. In the pictures it appears that my measurements do not line up. I assure you they did, the angle is bad in the pictures. These need to be spot on, otherwise the person printing used the wrong setting and the template is trash LOL.

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Step 3 - Cut out the paper template and tape it to your material. I chose 1/2" thick UHMW in a 4' x 8' sheet. This is enough material to cover the entire bottom of the machine. My other choice was a 4'x10' sheet of 3/8" thick. The price was only a couple dollars more for the smaller sheet of 1/2", so I went this route.

Step 4 - I traced the outline of the template to the material with a silver sharpie, then cut it out with a jig saw and a fast cut blade meant for wood. With a little orbital action this setup cut like butter. I have included center marks for all the radii and their measurements, in case you would like to drill them out and then connect all the holes with straight cuts. I found the jig saw cut the curves very easily and was very fast. Keep in mind, no part of the outline has to be exactly perfect. There is a huge fudge factor available here. The only critical part of this whole thing is the distance between all the mounting holes. Which brings us to the next step.


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Step 5 - Tape the template back down to your cut out skid plate. Then use a 1" or 1-1/8" spade bit to start each of the mounting holes by drilling through the paper template and into the skid plate material. Just mark the holes at this point. You can remove the paper template to finish drilling them, this way you won't accidentally snag the paper template and tear it or move it out of alignment. You need to get all of these holes started/marked without moving the template at all. Like stated before, this is the only critical part of the whole process so make sure the template doesn't move while starting/marking these holes.

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The factory skid plate holes are a little over 1-1/8". You can use this size if you like or you can use a 1" diameter spade bit like I did. By using the 1" I did not have as much wiggle room to move the fasteners around in the holes and consequently had to chew a little material out on two of the holes to get the cup washers to lay completely flat in the hole like they are meant to. Barely any material had to be removed, I just let a drill bit rub the inside of the hole for a second and that's all it needed. I did make adjustments on the final version of the skid plate template however, so I don't believe you will have this issue.

Step 6 - I then used a jig saw to cut out the drain plug slots and holes. I debated back and forth on the exhaust cut outs and ultimately chose to cut them out per the factory design. It is extremely hot where I ride in the summer and we do a lot of slow technical in the woods with no air flow. I have included all the factory drain and vent locations/designs on the skid plate; you chose which ones and how you want to cut them out.


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There are two options on the skid plate for the front corners near the front tires. One option is like the picture above and is meant to have the corners bent upwards at a 45 degree angle. The other option is to remove more of the skid plate material and have the plate simply lay flat and follow the contour of the frame. I originally had it cut for the "bending" option, but after realizing it was going to be a pain to bend this 1/2" UHMW, I went ahead and cut it off to the second option.

At this point you are basically done. There are a couple other things you may want to do though. I have included on the template the location of a relief cut to help the front of the skid plate bend upwards. This cut should be approximately 1/2 the thickness of the material and 2 saw blades wide, and made on the top side of the skid plate so the bottom side remains smooth. Please don't make the mistake of cutting this slot on the bottom side...


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In the below picture you can see at this point I had made the decision to cut out the exhaust vent holes. On the template I have modified them from the OEM design to include a little additional material around the one mounting bolt location. At this point I had also decided that bending the material was going to be really hard to do and had cut the front of the template with the second option to just lay flat and follow the frame.

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Also, just to make it a little cleaner, I used a 1/4" round over bit in the trim router to really make it fancy LOL. You DO NOT want to round over the mounting bolt holes, leave these squared off.

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And Lastly, there are two mounting holes that I have indicated on the template which need spacers between them and the frame. One will require approximately 1/2" spacer, and the other a 1" spacer. I just used scrap UHMW to make spacers, and doubled them up for the one bolt. If you are using 3/8" UHMW I'm sure that will be close enough. Hole saw plugs work great for the spacers. If you are having trouble aligning these spacers, I found out that if you have long arms you can actually reach both spots from the top side by only removing the seat.

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Here is the final product all mounted. You can see in the picture I have not installed the two optional bolts near the front, however the holes have been drilled (I am still waiting on the cup washers from the Honda dealer). I also included a picture to show how far past the main frame rails the skid plate will extend and overlap the rocker skids, with the template width of 30". You could easily add or subtract a little to your liking.

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Rocker Skids

In your 12' long print out, there will be a template for both side pieces to cover the rockers. I have not mounted these yet on my pioneer, but after cutting them out I believe the template is accurate. I Have not included any mounting hole locations on the two side templates since there are no factory holes. I plan on using about five 1/4" or 6mm self tapping screws and five cup washers from Honda, per side. I think you can decide for yourself where you would like to screw them in at. If the self tappers fail or don't seem good, then I'll replace with 6mm bolts and rivnuts. I may include the locations I use on later versions of the template.

All in all this is a very easy project. If you have a source for the material then I say it is an easy way to save some money. I hope it helps a couple of you out!
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Very impressive post. Thanks for great pictures and great information. I know this took a lot of time.
 
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Hey, This is the first time I've checked back in on this thread in a while. Glad to see so many people making use of the files! I've sent the file out probably 300-400 times so far. Sorry for the slow replies to some of you guys... Feel free to get the files from anybody I've already sent them too. Looks like there is some modified/new files going around too, that's awesome!

My last pioneer is sold, and I just got a 2020 Talon X. Anybody that doesn't need the bed or 5 seats should really consider a talon. It is hard to describe how much better it is than the pioneer. I can't believe I waited so long to make the switch. I was putting maybe 400 miles a year on my pioneer... the first day I had the talon I did 110 miles. Wife loves it, way more comfortable, and you know what they say, happy wife happy life.
You sent me the file almost 2 years ago. I held onto it like gold for so long. Lol. I work at a metal fabricating shop. To buy any type of plastic was more money than I had. Even with my discount at work the aluminum was also too much. I wound up buying a section of 16g for about $130. On my lunch breaks I would go into the CAD office and one of the guys helped me put it on a burn file. We printed it out and I took every measurement, radius and angle and transfered it to the system. Sent it to the burn dept and they cut it out for me. At some point I will buy the plastic material and template it as I all ready have it printed out. Thanks alot bud.
As far as the Talon goes. Its in my long term plans. The pioneer bed is super handy for all our gear. We ride almost every weekend all year. Its literally the only thing we do besides go camping (we take the Honda for that too, lol). I feel like the pioneer is more practical and safer for us. But I've driven the Talon. Oh do I know what the hype is about. Enjoy, be safe, and thanks Pal.

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You sent me the file almost 2 years ago. I held onto it like gold for so long. Lol. I work at a metal fabricating shop. To buy any type of plastic was more money than I had. Even with my discount at work the aluminum was also too much. I wound up buying a section of 16g for about $130. On my lunch breaks I would go into the CAD office and one of the guys helped me put it on a burn file. We printed it out and I took every measurement, radius and angle and transfered it to the system. Sent it to the burn dept and they cut it out for me. At some point I will buy the plastic material and template it as I all ready have it printed out. Thanks alot bud.
As far as the Talon goes. Its in my long term plans. The pioneer bed is super handy for all our gear. We ride almost every weekend all year. Its literally the only thing we do besides go camping (we take the Honda for that too, lol). I feel like the pioneer is more practical and safer for us. But I've driven the Talon. Oh do I know what the hype is about. Enjoy, be safe, and thanks Pal.

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This is awesome! We run a plasma table in our metal fab shop also ( havoc ducting) and I was thinking of trying to figure this out as well and stumbled onto this post. Any way I could bum that file from or the original PDF?
 
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This is awesome! We run a plasma table in our metal fab shop also ( havoc ducting) and I was thinking of trying to figure this out as well and stumbled onto this post. Any way I could bum that file from or the original PDF?
I would and I have tried previously. But the problem is that I work in a secured shop. Absolutely in no way can I get or remove the file since it was done on their program.
 
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I would and I have tried previously. But the problem is that I work in a secured shop. Absolutely in no way can I get or remove the file since it was done on their program.
Yep, totally get that, thanks for the reply!
 
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Is it possible to get a copy of the PDF file for the skid plate sent to [email protected]
Also, where is everyone buying their 1/2” UHMF from these days? I have access to a plasma table and might go The sheet metal route.
 
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We just got our 2020 1k5 yesterday. Starting to look at mods today. Brand new here and have already learned so much. Can someone email me the file? [email protected]
We appreciate the time you put in to make this! And those of you who have shared it with people like me. THANK YOU!
 
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Man, you guys put in a ton of work to get these drawn up and perfected, then generous enough to share with the community! I am new to the SxS club as we just picked up a 2020 1k5 Deluxe last month. I am a huge fan of these forums and the share the wealth mentality I always see! From what I have been seeing, this seems to be one of the most important upgrades on these machines. If you would be so kind to send me the files as well, I cannot thank you guys enough for the support! [email protected] Thank you again!
 
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