Talon First Talon Ride Event Next Week... Review coming soon!

[Talonpalooza]

So you're saying we went off topic.

No, just saying it is nice to see a 9 page thread in the Talon forum. Usually pretty quiet. Even if it gets a little off topic...good to see some back and forth on the Talon

 

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[nbomar]

Just want to say it is nice to see this board light up with a multiple page thread.

This place is always active. Maybe off topic, but active.


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[nbomar]

No, just saying it is nice to see a 9 page thread in the Talon forum. Usually pretty quiet. Even if it gets a little off topic...good to see some back and forth on the Talon

Ahh the talon section hasn’t been that active got ya...


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[Ragnar406]

Hey @Smitty335 and North West AR peps

 

[hondabob]

The engine uses the same bearings. Different head, crank, rods, pistons, rings, cams, etc. Oh and different clutches too.

 

[Fatsquatch]

The engine uses the same bearings. Different head, crank, rods, pistons, rings, cams, etc. Oh and different clutches too.

so basically the same thing <end sarcasm>

 

[snuffnwhisky]

So my understanding is that the YXZ is made to be run high rpms and the Talon is made to run more low end torque running lower rpm.....

If you don't keep the rpm's up on the YXZ you are going to be disappointed in the power.....


Sounds like the Talon is built to pull and have torque.... kind of like the 450 dirt bikes that old motorcross riders like me are used to.....

Isnt the yxz basically a motor they used in sleds?

I guess my point is they are 2 completely different engine designs...... kinda like diesel vs gas engines....


Dont you f***ers get started on that CP and plumber

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It's not as extreme as a gas vs diesel comparison. The Talon's redline is about 8,600 to the YXZ at 10,500. The Africa Twin peak TQ 5,500 vs 7,250 and peak HP 7,500 vs 8,750. HMF's dyno sheet of the Pioneer starts at 4k rpm and the YXZ has just a little more TQ there and extends into a higher rpm. It does like to rev though and really comes on from 6-9k rpm. It actually sounds and feels better the more your rev it. It still will blow the tires off from a stop and has launch control so you can take off at 10k rpm, just like revving a motorcycle to the rev limiter or whatever rpm u want and dumping the clutch by holding the paddles back, revving and letting go. It is a similar design that they use in the sleds. I saw a guy that used a longer stroke sled crankshaft in his yxz. The X3, YXZ and XX run the 3 cyl and I've heard Polaris is working on one and the new kawi looks to be a triple.

 

[Smitty335]

Very well said and I agree with you. I didn’t take that review as totally negative, people are going to like other machines more and we do know the power is a little soft. After watching the Blog review I’m certain it’ll be enough for me because I just don’t give a damn to ride dunes and it did look pretty natural hitting the trails. A little added power I’m hopeful will be possible and the shocks need to be good enough from the box, that’s a must for us. If those are good it’ll come down to no issues like a Honda was prior to the p1000.
They said plenty of good but did critique some but that’s what I want to hear, both sides. If I’m going to lay another 25k down and keep what we have I want to know all I can. That review didn’t change my thoughts, they were coming from people that wouldn’t probably normally ride where I do or how I do. I just want real reviews and that’s not going to come from a Honda only fanboy that hasn’t ridden anything else, don’t give a f*** what they have to say. Reviews finally coming in, it’s getting exciting! I’m eating it up

I'm waiting to see the four seat model!

 

[Smitty335]

Rock crawling?

 

[CumminsPusher]

Rock crawling?

Watch the video it’s pretty decent

 

[Plumber32]

It's not as extreme as a gas vs diesel comparison. The Talon's redline is about 8,600 to the YXZ at 10,500. The Africa Twin peak TQ 5,500 vs 7,250 and peak HP 7,500 vs 8,750. HMF's dyno sheet of the Pioneer starts at 4k rpm and the YXZ has just a little more TQ there and extends into a higher rpm. It does like to rev though and really comes on from 6-9k rpm. It actually sounds and feels better the more your rev it. It still will blow the tires off from a stop and has launch control so you can take off at 10k rpm, just like revving a motorcycle to the rev limiter or whatever rpm u want and dumping the clutch by holding the paddles back, revving and letting go. It is a similar design that they use in the sleds. I saw a guy that used a longer stroke sled crankshaft in his yxz. The X3, YXZ and XX run the 3 cyl and I've heard Polaris is working on one and the new kawi looks to be a triple.

Isn't the talon supposed to have launch control as well? Thought they came out with a patent on theirs.

 

[CumminsPusher]

Isn't the talon supposed to have launch control as well? Thought they came out with a patent on theirs.

Heard it wound up not having it but might be able to be programmed in

 

[Smitty335]

It kinda looks like a Artic cat. It’s a shaft drive ? They should have a race with all the top models for each manufacturer, to see who’s top dog. Everything, like mud, rock crawling, flat out, and dirt trails. That would be great. Thanks for the pictures.
Caper

And high speed rock crawling! HA!

 

[Smitty335]

Hey @Smitty335 and North West AR peps

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COOL!

 

[Plumber32]

This is a guy who knows his stuff better than your uncle does.

 

[Smitty335]

Watch the video it’s pretty decent

Too much sand, couldn't relate! HA! And no high speed rock crawling! HA! I do like the dual rate springs on the R!

 

[Caper]

So you're saying we went off topic.

Who ? Really ! Us ? Haha

Caper

 

[HondaTech]

The engine uses the same bearings. Different head, crank, rods, pistons, rings, cams, etc. Oh and different clutches too.

Reverse is lower too, 6th gear is a different part # but shows to be the same ratio. Alot of the top end parts are Africa Twin with some mixed in new stuff and P1K as well.

 

[Smitty335]

Reverse is lower too, 6th gear is a different part # but shows to be the same ratio. Alot of the top end parts are Africa Twin with some mixed in new stuff and P1K as well.

Wonder what the 4 seater platform will be, stretch limo?

 

[Neohio]

Reverse is lower too, 6th gear is a different part # but shows to be the same ratio. Alot of the top end parts are Africa Twin with some mixed in new stuff and P1K as well.

I'll check the ratios in the service manual tomorrow.