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JTW

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This is me, besides riding around the neighborhood its just me riding around in a 5 seater. not what i expected when i got it. The pioneer is still top of the class in the 5 seater, or 4+ and short wheelbase IMO, but for a single rider, I dont think its what id pick.

And im gonna have to agree with @JTW on the 60"+ machine. Plenty of people in my area ride 72" machines and do fine. Wider = Stability. when crawling through ruts going up a mountain, suspension travel and width are what keeps you on all 4 wheels. 60" seems narrow now to me. Ideally im wanting 64-68"
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Went to a local (non Honda) dealer today looking for a gear bag for my P5. Got a chance to finally see a Wolverine X2 in person. Very nice machine. Didn’t appear to be as wide in person as on paper at 59.1”.
 

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Well, to each his own. There is no such machine that does everything for everyone.

I’m that guy that uses his machine daily to change water, fix sprinklers, check fence, feed the horses, run up and get the paper or the mail.. drag the garbage can up the driveway, etc.. THEN, in our off time, use it for trail riding, hauling wood etc..
I want a machine that does both work and play well.
I had a Viking. Great machine, big on torque, low on rip, and lacking big time in suspension.
The 1k is the perfect mix. More power than I can reasonably use on the trail, the suspension is light years better.. it just works.
I’m not interested in dunes.. I like trail riding in the trees. A P5 would never work for me.. i’d Be rolling it constantly. A narrow UTV is NOT a good replacement for an atv, you can’t use body English in a UTV. Hell, I can’t even take the Pioneer some of the places I took my Rancher, and I’m okay with that. I have my better half BESIDE me.. we can talk, we’re comfy, and we take the dog.
I think a sport UTV would be a hoot.. I just wouldn’t be able to justify it.
 

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Well, to each his own. There is no such machine that does everything for everyone.

I’m that guy that uses his machine daily to change water, fix sprinklers, check fence, feed the horses, run up and get the paper or the mail.. drag the garbage can up the driveway, etc.. THEN, in our off time, use it for trail riding, hauling wood etc..
I want a machine that does both work and play well.
I had a Viking. Great machine, big on torque, low on rip, and lacking big time in suspension.
The 1k is the perfect mix. More power than I can reasonably use on the trail, the suspension is light years better.. it just works.
I’m not interested in dunes.. I like trail riding in the trees. A P5 would never work for me.. i’d Be rolling it constantly. A narrow UTV is NOT a good replacement for an atv, you can’t use body English in a UTV. Hell, I can’t even take the Pioneer some of the places I took my Rancher, and I’m okay with that. I have my better half BESIDE me.. we can talk, we’re comfy, and we take the dog.
I think a sport UTV would be a hoot.. I just wouldn’t be able to justify it.

I agree with everything you said honestly. I use my SxS the exact same way. I just don’t like them overly wide. 60” is as wide as I’d ever go. I’ve been able to do and go every where I need with my P5. I hope some day (now that this talon is out and Honda can maybe continue to improve exsisting models) that Honda will make the improvements that the P5 could use and needs.
 

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I agree with everything you said honestly. I use my SxS the exact same way. I just don’t like them overly wide. 60” is as wide as I’d ever go. I’ve been able to do and go every where I need with my P5. I hope some day (now that this talon is out and Honda can maybe continue to improve exsisting models) that Honda will make the improvements that the P5 could use and needs.
Drive a PK5!
 

DavidBear

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Well, to each his own. There is no such machine that does everything for everyone.

I’m that guy that uses his machine daily to change water, fix sprinklers, check fence, feed the horses, run up and get the paper or the mail.. drag the garbage can up the driveway, etc.. THEN, in our off time, use it for trail riding, hauling wood etc..
I want a machine that does both work and play well.
I had a Viking. Great machine, big on torque, low on rip, and lacking big time in suspension.
The 1k is the perfect mix. More power than I can reasonably use on the trail, the suspension is light years better.. it just works.
I’m not interested in dunes.. I like trail riding in the trees. A P5 would never work for me.. i’d Be rolling it constantly. A narrow UTV is NOT a good replacement for an atv, you can’t use body English in a UTV. Hell, I can’t even take the Pioneer some of the places I took my Rancher, and I’m okay with that. I have my better half BESIDE me.. we can talk, we’re comfy, and we take the dog.
I think a sport UTV would be a hoot.. I just wouldn’t be able to justify it.
I agree whole heartedly. And when out of towners (Nebraska in-laws) stop by we have 4 adults and a blue tick dog going to see the Colorado sights in the PK5…
 

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ive always had kawi quads and the first 3 wheeler i bought, they were always a better value till i bought the rhino used (1300 miles from my house and had it shipped) and the can am was a bad idea, but i always wanted a honda but they were always 50 to 100 percent more. till this pioneer, the first time i can say i got a good machine for decent money on a honda is most of the reason why it was that one. it was maybe a grand more than a the leftover brute and 2 less than the wolverine 2018 at the same dealer, seems like honda is finnally realizing the pricing is their biggest issue. they had a forman 500 with eps, otd 2 or 3 less than the brute too, might consider one when i get a qaud again to add for trails

second time i saw a pioneer yesterday, one 700-4 one 2, both were power line owned must be by the look of the guys riding it, everybody is a cheap farmer around here, you only see the super cheap utvs, rangers, gators, mules, etc
 
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My P500 is the 1st and only SxS (or ATV ) I have owned. It is a 2016 and we have been using it on weekends to ride in the mountains here in central Montana. It has been a lot of fun on our trips. We ride with 3 0r 4 other couples (about our age, 60-70), they drive Polaris RZR's, 570-600 cc I guess. We keep up with them quite well on the trails, they pass my wife and me on the paved roads because they can travel 45 mph versus my max of 40 MPH. that's ok though we eventually catch up to them and continue on the trails. The Forest Service trails are only 50' wide, not 56' so my P500 works well. I like the paddle shift trans. the 500 cc engine has excellent torque, we haven't found a hill on the trails we couldn't climb. I also like the compression braking down the hills, I very seldom use my brakes downhill. The people in the Rzr's are constantly using their brakes and tell me they have to replace pads almost every year. My P500 fits well in the bed of my pickup and is easy to load and unload, so we can be loaded and ready to go on a moments notice. I think we are sticking with our P500, it has been a good and reliable ride.
 

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My P500 is the 1st and only SxS (or ATV ) I have owned. It is a 2016 and we have been using it on weekends to ride in the mountains here in central Montana. It has been a lot of fun on our trips. We ride with 3 0r 4 other couples (about our age, 60-70), they drive Polaris RZR's, 570-600 cc I guess. We keep up with them quite well on the trails, they pass my wife and me on the paved roads because they can travel 45 mph versus my max of 40 MPH. that's ok though we eventually catch up to them and continue on the trails. The Forest Service trails are only 50' wide, not 56' so my P500 works well. I like the paddle shift trans. the 500 cc engine has excellent torque, we haven't found a hill on the trails we couldn't climb. I also like the compression braking down the hills, I very seldom use my brakes downhill. The people in the Rzr's are constantly using their brakes and tell me they have to replace pads almost every year. My P500 fits well in the bed of my pickup and is easy to load and unload, so we can be loaded and ready to go on a moments notice. I think we are sticking with our P500, it has been a good and reliable ride.
There it is, I agree heartily and welcome to the forum...you’ve got beautiful country to ride in.
 
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Mike Martsolf

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Had my P 5 since 2015-my wife and just think it is pretty OK! Traveled over 5000 miles. My only complaint is rear diff noise & would like a little more top speed. That said/had the opotunity to spend a week with a new Maverick Trail. Very nice butt—hard for me to get in & out of, poor visibility-base cost is not much more than the P5 but it’s belt drive and never got used to the initial engagement of the clutch’s. Looking to buy in the spring/me thinks another P5 is in my future or a 700 and keep the P5
 
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the can ams have an abrupt engine brake but after you learn to slowly let off the throttle didn't seem so bad. I think though the wolverine 2 would be the best over all machine for reliable machine for mostly trails, ride nice and they have the best belt system out there, you can beat the heck out of it and never have a problem, just driving it not as abrupt either
 
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jgritters

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@DG Rider thats a very good summary of what I was thinking or wondering with folks saling/trading their machines. Some very good points you made. I was shocked when I seen the recall for the 1000. All sxs are noisey. Just no way around it. My P5 is durable as an anvil. Do I wish it had more suspension travel-yes. Should it come with at least a front locker-yes should it have ability to unlock the rear diff-yes. Should they have placed a bed from the factory on it-yes. Is it a little under powered-yes. Should they offer and EPS edition-yes. Etc etc. but for under 10 grand I’d buy again again. It will outlast me and I’ll give it to my son and he can give it to his some day. There is no perfect machine out there at least not yet and for my liking and intended uses. I think that’s why folks often sell. Newness wears off and they want a “perfect” machine. I came from a Kymco UXV 450 which was a solid great little machine. Kymco is so under valued. But I wanted a better dealer network and better long term parts availability and more options for accessories so I can home to Honda. I always had Honda growing up. Still have our 1970’s model 70cc three wheeler. I’d be lying if I haven’t questioned did I buy the right machine. But
 

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that’s funny. I also came from a kymco uxv 450i.
That little machine was high quality but I needed more room for the family. Still getting to know my new 700.
 

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that’s funny. I also came from a kymco uxv 450i.
That little machine was high quality but I needed more room for the family. Still getting to know my new 700.
I looked at the Arctic Cat/Textron/Arctic Cat version of the 450i...the Prowler 500. It looked really well made...but I couldn't quite get over the Kymco part, though I must admit that I could find very few issues with them.
 

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you normally find the quality issues with those cats and polaris and others when you go in mud or water toward top of the tire or more. any bit of the rad has mud they overheat and they dont like getting wet the artics just quit and popo wont restart after being in the mud because of where the fools put part of the start circuit.

really where the japaneese engineering for over sized rads and mud proof connections out of the way is really seen
 
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