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Elka did recommend them when I bought some shocks for my old Raptor 660. I don’t know if that means anything though.
 
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My dual sport motorcycle has upside down forks, the chrome tubes hang out the bottom (duh). What happens is this - you ride through some mud and the entire shaft gets coated with mud. You (I) only use a fraction of the travel most of the time, that lets the mud dry on the chrome tubes, OK so far. But there's always that big hit that uses most of your travel - so what? The dried mud on the exposed shaft gets force fed into the shock/fork seal, that's what. It only takes a few of these events to destroy the seals (if not the chrome tube/shaft) and now you've got fork seals leaking oil all over your front brake caliper/pads. That gets real old, real fast.

And that is what shock covers are for, protect the chromed shaft and shock seals.
 
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My dual sport motorcycle has upside down forks, the chrome tubes hang out the bottom (duh). What happens is this - you ride through some mud and the entire shaft get coated with mud. You (I) only use a fraction of the travel most of the time, that lets the mud dry on the chrome tubes, OK so far. But there's always that big hit that uses most of your travel - so what? The dried mud on the exposed shaft gets force fed into the shock/fork seal, that's what. It only takes a few of these events to destroy the seals (if not the chrome tube/shaft) and now you've got fork seals leaking oil all over your front brake caliper/pads. That gets real old, real fast.

And that is what shock covers are for, protect the chromed shaft and shock seals.
I never knew that!
 
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I'd double or triple those zip ties, they're going to get 'worked' in this application. Or get the 1/2" zip ties, even better.

I never thought about putting my shock covers over the plastic shields, I squeezed them in between the shield and spring.

I hope you are happy now! :p

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Well, I took it up to the cabin where it will live. I put on about 30 miles and everything was good. We had 50-60 degrees all weekend so perfect riding weather. The 1/2 windshield I rigged up put the wind at my forehead, while still being able to see over it, which was perfect. The kids loved the center bump seat.

Totally different machine than the Pioneer 1000-5 though. Riding the trails the Talon was way more fun, sliding on the ice and mud. :) When I did put a helmet on to ride the trails, my head was about 2" from the roof, which caused it to bump it lightly and/or hit the cage when i looked behind me. So, rearview side mirrors are in my future, and probably lowering the driver seat an inch or two.

But when it came to doing slow trails through technical terrain or following the kids on their little 4-wheeler under 15 mph, I liked the Pioneer 1000-5 better. It was less jerky and seems to have lower gearing.


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I added some side mirrors last weekend. I didn't take pictures of the mirrors, but they are just ones from Fleet Farm. Here's a few videos to enjoy.


Amazing didn't get stuck in that deep stuff. Was there a click I heard right before you started to get traction?

Did you manually change something or was that the i4wd doing something?
 
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Amazing didn't get stuck in that deep stuff. Was there a click I heard right before you started to get traction?

Did you manually change something or was that the i4wd doing something?
I think you're hearing the clutch engage/transmission shift, the i4wd makes no noise (on mine at least).
 
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Amazing didn't get stuck in that deep stuff. Was there a click I heard right before you started to get traction?

Did you manually change something or was that the i4wd doing something?

I was amazed that I didn't get stuck also! I did get a lap full of 40* mud and water in reverse. Something to think about with only a 1/4 windshield. 🥶

It only clicks like that in mud. It does it in 2wd and i4wd. It feels like the clutches or transmission shifting like mentioned above. My i4wd seems to be quiet also.
 
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I was amazed that I didn't get stuck also!

It only clicks like that in mud. It does it in 2wd and i4wd. It feels like the clutches or transmission shifting like mentioned above. My i4wd seems to be quiet also.

So had you left it in auto then vs. manual transmission? Was it downshifting at that time?

What's the best strategy you've found for those real mucky, easily stuck situations for gearing/manual/auto?
 
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So had you left it in auto then vs. manual transmission? Was it downshifting at that time?

What's the best strategy you've found for those real mucky, easily stuck situations for gearing/manual/auto?

Well, I've only put about 60 miles on the machine so far. This is the first time I got it deep in the mud. I left it in auto for this video. I didn't even think about manual, but I'll have to try that next time. After rewatching the video, I think it was upshifting on me.

On my pioneer 1000-5 I never take it out of auto and it never makes these shifting noises. 🤔 So, if anyone has advice, I'll take it.
 
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So had you left it in auto then vs. manual transmission? Was it downshifting at that time?

What's the best strategy you've found for those real mucky, easily stuck situations for gearing/manual/auto?
I've found it's best to be in manual for the sticky stuff, if it shifts due to wheel speed you can lose momentum.
 
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Well, I've only put about 60 miles on the machine so far. This is the first time I got it deep in the mud. I left it in auto for this video. I didn't even think about manual, but I'll have to try that next time. After rewatching the video, I think it was upshifting on me.

On my pioneer 1000-5 I never take it out of auto and it never makes these shifting noises. 🤔 So, if anyone has advice, I'll take it.
I switch to manual if I'm running in slower more technical stuff or mud and always use manual when in low range. The only time I leave it in auto is when we're just cruising. I came from a 2016 P5 that didn't have auto so banging the flippers feels natural to me.
 
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Well, I feel the machine is pretty well set up so I haven't changed anything. Just been putting miles on!!

I did learn that in the mud you should use manual mode. The clunking in the mud was the machine shifting on me.

Here are some pics from my last trail ride.

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Sand angels!!

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We found an awesome camping spot on a river way back in some county forest land for next summer. The water was in the low 60's, but at 82* outside we took a little dip anyway.



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Well, I feel the machine is pretty well set up so I haven't changed anything. Just been putting miles on!!

I did learn that in the mud you should use manual mode. The clunking in the mud was the machine shifting on me.

Here are some pics from my last trail ride.

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Sand angels!!

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We found an awesome camping spot on a river way back in some county forest land for next summer. The water was in the low 60's, but at 82* outside we took a little dip anyway.

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Looks like everyone an amazing time!!
 
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They love going on rides!

I think I’m going to start on a full windshield for winter soon. I have some covid sneeze guards that are 3/8 poly. They bend nice in our brake press and have been sitting in a corner for a few months now.
 
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I found the issue I was having under load in the mud. I ended up having a dealer rebuild the sub tranny with the 2022 updated parts. So hopefully no more problems with the sub trans. While it was at the dealer they checked the parking collar, airbox clamps, and the fuel pump. They had it done in 3 weeks so pretty fast.

Below are a few pictures of the broken parts.

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I also got rid of the warning plate. I will probably do some backlighting at some point but I decided I like the brushed aluminum look and just put a couple coats of clear on it.

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I also put some new registration decals on. They are red so it should give me a couple more MPH top speed.


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