P500 Torq-Masters torq locker feedback

[Smitty335]

Today's TIP

For those of you who want to wash down your differential after removal. Get you a couple of balloons and stick them in the holes where the axle shafts go , blow them up and tie them. This will seal them up pretty good.

Make sure you cover the vent hole and put the filler and drain plug in while washing.
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Not perfect but pretty clean
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Works great for painting things that you don't want paint to get in like the races in hubs, I use tapered rubber plugs though.

 

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[WillyBill]

I know what you mean Brother!! sniff.... LMAO!!

Well said @JWB
WB

 

[Chooglin]

I just want to mention two very important steps in the install instructions that JWB created. First off , @JWB you did a excellent job with the install instructions (very thorough)

Very important

Page 8 steps C and D of instructions
you want to REUSE these thrust washers !!!!

Page 9 step F of instructions
You do NOT reuse the cone washers !!!!!

 

[Gassygordo]

I just want to mention two very important steps in the install instructions that JWB created. First off , @JWB you did a excellent job with the install instructions (very thorough)

Very important

Page 8 steps C and D of instructions
you want to REUSE these thrust washers !!!!

Page 9 step F of instructions
You do NOT reuse the cone washers !!!!!

Yes, I did (thrust washers) and l didn’t (cone washers).

 

[Chooglin]

I will be installing my locker tonight and I will post pics of the cone washers and the thrust washers !

Cone washers are domed and thrust washers/shims are flat. There are two different diameter thrust washers !

 

[Neohio]

There are two different diameter thrust washers !

Diameter or Thickness?

 

[Chooglin]

Diameter or Thickness?

Diameter read my quote.........lol

 

[Neohio]

Diameter

I recall the washers in @JWB video, I thought it was thickness, what do I know though, I doubt I will have my fingers in a 500 diff anytime soon, Unless Trigger really dumps his off on me.

 

[Mudder]

These must be the cone washers not re used.??? Upper right of JWB video screen grab. Sorry for all the posting, just wanted to be sure as this will be the first differential I’ve worked on and don’t want to mess it up. Thanks.

 

[Neohio]

These must be the cone washers not re used.??? Upper right of screen grab.View attachment 80263

Correct, cone washers, aka bell washers

 

[Chooglin]

The two flat washers/shims , sets the backlash/mesh for the ring and pinion gears , so you definitely don't want to leave them out. Not sure what the purpose of the cone washers are !

 

[Neohio]

The two flat washers/shims , sets the backlash/mesh for the ring and pinion gears , so you definitely don't want to leave them out. Not sure what the purpose of the cone washers are !

Cone washers reduce friction between carrier and spider gears.

 

[Mudder]

Edit..torq masters just clarified their reply. JWB instructions spot on. His work to help us all shows his skills to be a good Instructor and procedure writer.

 

[Neohio]

Hope this clears it up.

Lets refer to the pieces as Honda does in their service manual.
You will reuse left ring gear shim, as well as right ring gear shim.
The cone washers that are removed from the spider gears in the differential are NOT reused.

Edit: Not using the left/right gear shims will reek havoc on your gear mesh between pinion and rings gears. I thought they were different thickness, but @Chooglin has corrected me and said they were different diameters.

 

[Chooglin]

Hope this clears it up.
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Lets refer to the pieces as Honda does in their service manual.
You will reuse left ring gear shim, as well as left ring gear shim.
The cone washers that are removed from the spider gears in the differential are NOT reused.

Edit: Not using the left/right gear shims will reek havoc on your gear mesh between pinion and rings gears. I thought they were different thickness, but @Chooglin has corrected me and said they were different diameters.

@Neohio edit your post , you have to left ring gear shims instead of a left and right !

 

[Neohio]

@Neohio edit your post , you have to left ring gear shims instead of a left and right !

Thanks, brain fart, we all get em

 

[pFive]

This is timely for me...I was just starting to wonder what was up with the two conflicting data points on the shim stack washers. Guess what I am getting ready to do!

 

[Chooglin]

Top washers are NOT Reused

Bottom washers are REUSED

 

[jmcampbell54]

This is timely for me...I was just starting to wonder what was up with the two conflicting data points on the shim stack washers. Guess what I am getting ready to do! View attachment 80269

I wish my shop/garage was that nice.


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[TeamCheap]

I got mine today but wont be able to touch my P5 until middle of next week.